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This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly

This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial FollyAuthors: Carmen M. Reinhart, Kenneth Rogoff
Publisher: Princeton University Press
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5 out of 5 stars THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT   September 5, 2010
J. Michael Flinn (seattle)
THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING BOOK. IT'S A MUST REFERENCE AND A MUST READ. EXCELLENT TABLES AND WRITTEN SO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND THE FACTS. JMF


5 out of 5 stars No Honey, this time is not different.   September 4, 2010
Dale C. Maley (Fairbury, IL United States)
This book is one of the most complete reviews of financial crises over the last 800 years that I have seen.

After the Crash of 2008, some of the Lessons Learned from past crises would seem to apply today. For example, how do countries stay out of country related financial crises?

The secret to keeping your country out of trouble is to first live below your means, meaning running a surplus each year. Second is to borrow as little as possible and to fund the debt with maturities over 10 years. Third is to have no hidden off-the-balance sheet guaranties.

How to get your country into trouble is to run a deficit every year, borrow short term to fund the debt, and have a lot of hidden off-the-balance sheet guaranties.

The authors divide past financial crises into many categories including inflation, currency crashes, debasement, serial default, this time is different, banking crises, and external/domestic defaults.

Some of the summary statistics from past financial crises include:

Average house price decline of 36% with 2008 sub-prime being 30% and 1929 of 12%.

Average time for home prices to recover of 6 years.

Average stock market decline of 56% with 3.4 years to recover.

Unemployment usually rises by an average of 7%. In the U.S., before 2008 was 4% and it is now at 10%. The 1929 Great Depression increase was 20% over the base rate.

Average GDP declines of 9.3% and peak to trough of 1.9 years.

The authors point out that bubbles are much more dangerous when they are fueled by debt (2008 Sub-prime crises) than not funded by debt (2000 Tech Wreck).

There has been 5 big bank crises since 1945 plus the 2008 Sub-Prime fiasco. This means a major banking crisis every 11 years (6 crises in 65 years). The once every 11 year banking crisis is the same order of magnitude as stock market crashes in the U.S. with 8 Bear markets since 1945 or once every 8 years (8 Bears in 65 years).

The authors found that a banking crisis is the worst kind of crash. They found that real housing price bubbles were the best predictors of banking crises. Annual deficits and stock markets were not good predictors of banking crises because they give too many false alarms.

One astounding finding to me was that government debt usually almost doubles (86% increase) after a banking crisis. It seems like the U.S. is on track to exceed the historical average in this category.

Why have banks managed to create their own crisis about once every 11 years? The authors theorize it is because of the inherently unstable design of banks.

Fractional reserve banking is based upon taking in deposits (that can be redeemed in a minutes notice) and then lending the money long term (where it is illiquid and can not be redeemed quickly). As soon as the depositors lose confidence in the bank, they create a run on the bank. Since the banks keep very little cash on hand, and they can't liquidate the loans quickly.........they become insolvent and close their doors.

Listening to Bernanke testify at the Financial Crisis Commission, his biggest worry back in September 2008 was a national run on all banks by the depositors. This came very close to occurring when a money market mutual fund "broke the buck" on its money market accounts. If all investors had withdrawn their money from money market mutual fund accounts, the system would have shut down.

In summary, this book opens up your eyes to how common banking failures are with an average crisis period of once every 11 years. As an investor who purchased some bank stocks in 2006 and watched them start to decline in 2008, I would recommend never buying bank stocks.

With an average U.S. stock market Bear market occurring on average every 8 years and a banking crisis every 11 years, I would suggest a low-cost broadly diversified portfolio in global investments.

I guess the recent bank reform law included a provision for the biggest banks to provide a "living will" telling how they could be broken apart and easily sold when they fail. It will be interesting to see if this helps the "too big to fail problem" the next time the banks screw up.

For students of financial markets, this book belongs on your bookshelf.



1 out of 5 stars Sloppy Research   September 1, 2010
buddylak (Seattle, WA USA)
2 out of 2 found this review helpful

This Time is Different features sloppy research which is most visible in Table 2.3 where the the refundings of Consols the British nation at par are listed (incorrectly) as defaults. The right of the British government to refund Consols at par was always reflected in their prices. Five percent Consols were priced in the 1700s to have higher yields then Thre Percent Consols which reflected the greater vulnerability of Five Percent Consols to refunding.
Another howler - he largest domestic default in US History-the voiding of the Gold Clause in US government bonds by the Roosevelt Administration in 1933 is represented in this account only by default in 1933 by the US on its treaty obligations to Panama-which is listed as a "domestic default" Panama was then (at least de jure) an independant country.



5 out of 5 stars A Sad Tale Of Debt And Inflation   August 18, 2010
Benjamin Reid Lodmell
I don't always agree with Rogoff's world view but this is just great financial history and will stay on my library shelf. The boom, bust, repeat process is undeniable now. As much as I am a believer in the "global growth story" because I simply assess that we are in a fundamentally growing world and I think emerging markets are building unprecedented demand, inspite of the stumbling blocks. However,this tale tells another vision. Basically, the authors think that future national debt crises and rising inflation are going to derail the global economy. As an economist, I take their view seriously. We all have to vigilantly observe the flow of economic data these next years. It is no time for idealogues. The proof will be in the pudding and let's just hope Rogoff and company are wrong. It is a great reference book regardless of where you see the global economy going.


4 out of 5 stars Dark Matter!   August 9, 2010
Jeffery G. Schmitz (USA)
This was an interesting read and I have read a fair share of Economics books to put it mildly. The most interesting
theory this book turned me onto was the work that was done by Ricardo Hausmann and Federico Sturzenegger of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University..ever since then I have been trying to understand a new economic theory that attempts to answer an intriguing puzzle in our international trade and finance statistics: why is it that the US has a positive income of around $30 billion when our net international investment position shows a debt of about $3 trillion. How can be earning income on debt?

This new theory claims that, in part, our current measures of investment miss a large chunk of intangible assets -- what they label "dark matter", akin to the concept in astrophysics where the known mass of the universe is not large enough to explain why gravity can hold the universe together, that there is more mass (some "dark matter") in the universe that we can see and measure. Just as astrophysicists can impute the amount of that dark matter from the laws of physics (how much is needed to explain how gravity is working), these economist have imputed the amount of economic "dark matter" missing from our international asset position. The conclusion is that we really aren't in debt at all. The policy implication is that the trade deficit and international debt don't matter and that the dreaded currency correction (where the dollar falls enough to bring our trade balance back in line) won't happen.

Aside from that this book uses sharp analysis and comprehensive data, Reinhart and Rogoff document that financial fallout's occur in clusters and strike with surprisingly consistent frequency, duration, and ferocity. They examine the patterns of currency crashes, high and hyperinflation, and government defaults on international and domestic debts--as well as the cycles in housing and equity prices, capital flows, unemployment, and government revenues around these crises. While countries do weather their financial storms, Reinhart and Rogoff prove that short memories make it all too easy for crises to recur.

I suggest checking it out - Kindle version just because available!

Cheers -

Jeffery


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